{"id":92,"date":"2008-02-12T14:16:19","date_gmt":"2008-02-12T21:16:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=92"},"modified":"2008-02-12T14:16:19","modified_gmt":"2008-02-12T21:16:19","slug":"fisa-roll-call-strike-telco-immunity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/2008\/02\/12\/fisa-roll-call-strike-telco-immunity\/","title":{"rendered":"Senate surveillance (FISA) roll calls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There were two major votes on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=77\">&#8216;Protect&#8217; America Act (FISA) surveillance bill<\/a> in the Senate today.\u00c2\u00a0 Civil liberties lost both times.\u00c2\u00a0 The fight now moves to the House.  A 15-day extension is possible.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2008\/2\/12\/144425\/116\/317\/455317\">mcjoan has more on Kos<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->The first vote was on an an amendment to strike immunity for telecos, which went down 67-31.  A &#8220;yea&#8221; vote is in favor of holding corporations responsible for unconstitutional activities; an &#8220;nay&#8221; vote is to give them immunity.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Democrats: 30 yea (including Obama and Reid), 18 nay (including Rockefeller and Feinstein), one not voting (Clinton)<\/p>\n<p>Independents: 1 yea (Sanders), 1 nay (Lieberman)<\/p>\n<p>Republicans: 0 yea, 49 nay (including McCain), 1 not voting (Graham)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.senate.gov\/legislative\/LIS\/roll_call_lists\/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00015\">Details here<\/a>; mcjoan has a list of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2008\/2\/12\/17473\/5564\/179\/455431\">31 heroes<\/a>.  Hillary Clinton, who was campaigning in Texas<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/terrorist_surveillance\">The next vote was on the bill itself.<\/a>  A yes vote approves warrantless surveillance; a &#8216;no&#8217; vote is to uphold the Fourth Amendment.  Yes, it really is that stark.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2008\/2\/12\/17473\/5564\/179\/455431\">Final results<\/a>, thanks to TPM: 68 yes, 29 no (including  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americablog.com\/2008\/02\/difi-voting-against-fisa.html\">Feinstein*<\/a>), 3 no vote (including Obama and Clinton).<\/p>\n<p>A sad day for civil liberties in the U. S.<\/p>\n<p>The one silver lining here is that.\u00c2\u00a0 A majority of the Democratic party <em>and<\/em> their Senatorial leadership squarely embraced civil liberties.  So did both presidential candidates (Hillary Clinton didn&#8217;t vote, but her spokesperson <a href=\"http:\/\/marcambinder.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2008\/02\/the_split_over_telecom_immunit.php\">issued a statement<\/a> expressing strong opposition).  Back in November and December, there were a lot of questions whether the Democratic party would roll over on this.  While many individuals crossed over, the party as a whole did not.  Whew.  Chris Dodd, Patrick Leahy, and Russ Feingold for Congressional Medals of Honor!<\/p>\n<p>* <strong>Update<\/strong>, 11:45 p.m.: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.calitics.com\/showDiary.do?diaryId=5108\">comments on Calitics<\/a> highlight that Feinstein&#8217;s &#8220;no&#8221; vote was after voting for cloture immunity.   One out of three ain&#8217;t good; but it <em>is<\/em> better than zero out of three.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>, 8:30 a.m.: clarifying that Obama voted on immunity, but not the bill itself<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There were two major votes on the &#8216;Protect&#8217; America Act (FISA) surveillance bill in the Senate today.\u00c2\u00a0 Civil liberties lost both times.\u00c2\u00a0 The fight now moves to the House. A 15-day extension is possible. mcjoan has more on Kos.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[75,149],"class_list":["post-92","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-political","tag-civil-liberties","tag-fisa"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/92","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=92"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/92\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=92"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=92"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=92"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}