{"id":335,"date":"2009-02-01T11:43:52","date_gmt":"2009-02-01T18:43:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=335"},"modified":"2009-02-01T11:43:52","modified_gmt":"2009-02-01T18:43:52","slug":"topprog-tcot-trolling-and-topics-for-fem20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/2009\/02\/01\/topprog-tcot-trolling-and-topics-for-fem20\/","title":{"rendered":"#topprog: #tcot, trolling and topics for #fem2.0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"float: right; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;\" src=\"http:\/\/static.twitter.com\/images\/search\/twitter-logo-small.png\" alt=\"twitter logo\" width=\"175\" height=\"41\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Update<\/span>: #topprog Tweetup : Tuesday Night 7:30 EST : Subject &#8211; topprog.org features, functionality, and community. Please Retweet!\u00c2\u00a0 H\/T @cacardinal<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=334\">new #topprog Twitter hashtag for progressives<\/a> continues to make progress with a good range of topics and tweeters &#8212; including big names like @blogdiva, @PunditMom (who&#8217;s moderating a breakout session at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fem2pt0.com\/?p=673\">fem2pt0<\/a> tomorrow), and @JoeTrippi.<\/p>\n<p>The progressive blogosphere&#8217;s ignoring it, of course,* but the conservatives of #tcot are nervous enough that they&#8217;re already <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/brooksbayne\/status\/1165461890\">labelling it a #fail<\/a>, thinking about <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jameslbarnes\/status\/1165227762\">flooding it<\/a>, and coming up with <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jameslbarnes\/status\/1165299091\">euphemisms for trolling<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 And in fact @The_Anti_Guru&#8217;s &#8220;active engagement&#8221; probably accounts for over 50% of the traffic, counting replies.\u00c2\u00a0 Guy attempts to disrupt and dominate conversation in potentially-woman-friendly-space, film at 11!<\/p>\n<p>Gender issues aside, a lot of people are skeptical whether it&#8217;s possible to have meaningful conversations on Twitter.\u00c2\u00a0 Won&#8217;t the loudest voices drown everybody else out?\u00c2\u00a0 The three loudest tweeters yesterday had 46, 30, and 29 tweets yesterday.\u00c2\u00a0 As calibration, @drdigipol, aka <a href=\"http:\/\/www.drdigipol.com\/\">Alan Rosenblatt<\/a>, who as the creator of the list presumably has as much to say as anybody else, had 7.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 So it&#8217;s easy to overlook @lizandra311&#8217;s updates on the Rootscamp in Philadelphia, or the occasional posts from @blogdiva, @Heardtfelt, @myrnyatheminx, @GetFISARight and others.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->It&#8217;s a place where a little functionality would help a lot.\u00c2\u00a0 If only each user had a way of ignoring people they thought were trolling and everybody replying to him!\u00c2\u00a0 Or wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if I had a knob for the RSS feed that said &#8220;ignore everybody who posts more than 10 times in a 24-hour period&#8221;?\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 As more political debate discussions happen on Twitter, hopefully Twitter user interfaces will incorporate funcationality like this [in fact for all i know they already do].<\/p>\n<p>In\u00c2\u00a0 the meantime, oh well, people will probably learn to ignore @The_Anti_Guru quickly enough.\u00c2\u00a0 &#8220;Please don&#8217;t feed the trolls.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0 And with a little practice it&#8217;s easy enough to skip over the posts by the loudest posters even using Twitter&#8217;s generic search page.\u00c2\u00a0 At least for now, with a little practice it&#8217;s not too hard to separate out the wheat from the chaff.<\/p>\n<p>And now back to the gender issues.\u00c2\u00a0 Thus far, according to Google, there have been four blog posts about the new #topprog Twitter hashtag for progressives.\u00c2\u00a0 Here&#8217;s what the linking pattern looked like between <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=334\">mine on <em>Liminal States<\/em><\/a>,\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.techpresident.com\/blog\/entry\/33639\/progressives_have_a_hashtag\">Nancy Scola&#8217;s on <em>techPresident<\/em><\/a>, Stefan Deeran&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/exceptionmag.com\/life\/technology\/000294\/progressives-try-match-conservatives-twitter\">in <em>Exception Magazine<\/em><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.epolitics.com\/2009\/01\/30\/rosenblatt-rallies-the-troops-as-progressives-power-up-on-twitter-to-match-conservative-activists\/\">Colin Delany&#8217;s on <\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.epolitics.com\/2009\/01\/30\/rosenblatt-rallies-the-troops-as-progressives-power-up-on-twitter-to-match-conservative-activists\/\">e.politics<\/a>. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; I didn&#8217;t link to anybody<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Nancy linked to me<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Colin linked to Stefan<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Stefan didn&#8217;t link to any of us<\/p>\n<p>To be clear: nobody linked to the only woman who posted about #topprog.\u00c2\u00a0 See Shelley Powers&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/burningbird.net\/connecting\/guys-dont-link\/\">Guys Don&#8217;t Link<\/a> on <em>Burningbird<\/em> for more discussion of this dynamic.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to look at who gets quoted in the articles. Nancy quotes @anotherpundit and me; Stefan quotes Alan and Michael (aka Mr. #tcot).\u00c2\u00a0 Colin quotes Alan.\u00c2\u00a0 I wonder if women have any opinions on this?<\/p>\n<p>Hmm.\u00c2\u00a0 These all sound like good topics for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fem2pt0.com\/?p=673\">fem2pt0<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>jon<\/p>\n<p>* on the surface it seems like the kind of thing that should interest &#8220;progressive&#8221; bloggers, but it&#8217;s on a social network site so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=268\">it might as well not exist<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: #topprog Tweetup : Tuesday Night 7:30 EST : Subject &#8211; topprog.org features, functionality, and community. 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