{"id":3137,"date":"2011-09-19T03:03:36","date_gmt":"2011-09-19T10:03:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3137"},"modified":"2011-09-19T03:03:36","modified_gmt":"2011-09-19T10:03:36","slug":"its-hard-to-be-optimistic-part-9-of-google-and-diversity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/2011\/09\/19\/its-hard-to-be-optimistic-part-9-of-google-and-diversity\/","title":{"rendered":"Talk about a hostile environment (part 9 of Google+ and Diversity)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">also posted <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/115324919838980591640\/posts\/DymkQ2pdhZZ\">on G+<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/diasp.org\/posts\/235552\">on Diaspora*<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a title=\"Jon on Google+\" href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/115324919838980591640\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6133\/6008117701_a5d54f459b.jpg\" alt=\"Google+ in rainbow colors\" width=\"331\" height=\"115\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>I feel very let down by Google&#8217;s behavior. I had hoped to escape the heavy-handedness that is Facebook, but that is not to be.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll have a presence here; I have to, professionally. But the joy is gone.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Kathy Gill, <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/108740570618849247850\/posts\/NpUtwPZZWPW\">Google+ As An Identity Service Is Bait And Switch<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more-->Like Kathy, I&#8217;m feeling pretty disenchanted with Google right now.\u00c2\u00a0 As an entrepeneur, I was excited enough about Google+&#8217;s possibilities that I was ready to make a big bet on it.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 If things had worked out differently, Kathy and I would have been starting up a G+-based business, and I would have been one of those developers eagerly waiting for the API to come out, developing and testing an app in Hangouts, sharing it with the world, recruiting all my friends to Google+ so they could use it &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>But no.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, I&#8217;m hanging out on Diaspora and having a great time &#8212; interesting discussions with a diverse group of interesting people from all over the world.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;ve stopped using Google&#8217;s search and am encouraging my friends to de-Googlify themselves.\u00c2\u00a0 Instead of thinking about how to build software on Google+, I&#8217;m thinking about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3120\">how to improve Diaspora<\/a>, Dreamwdith, Friendika, Status.net and the other alternatives to Google&#8217;s and Facebook&#8217;s &#8220;identity systems&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>True, like Kathy, I&#8217;m still on Google+.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 For what I do, I need to be there &#8212; and I&#8217;m more convinced than ever of its potential for activism, a topic I&#8217;ll turn to in a future post.<\/p>\n<p>But overall Google+ turned into a job for me.\u00c2\u00a0 Fortunately I have some great colleagues and have some really good discussions in the break room, but still &#8230; its the kind of workplace where my friends get suspended, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3083\">guys pass around photos of breasts<\/a>,* and the people running it are committed to <a href=\"http:\/\/geekfeminism.org\/2011\/07\/19\/who-is-harmed-by-a-real-names-policy\/\">a policy that harms abuse survivors, LGBTQs, people with medical conditions, teachers, whistleblowers, activists, women, and so many others<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0 Talk about a hostile environment<\/p>\n<p>So yeah, the joy is gone for me too.<\/p>\n<p>Multiply me and Kathy by whatever percentage of Google+ 25,000,000 early  users are upset and you get an idea of how much of an impact the  nymwars have had on its success so far.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Sure, there are plenty of  people who don&#8217;t care; but when so many talented well-connected people  who would otherwise be passionate supporters are actively telling their  friends and colleagues how much they dislike it, it&#8217;s a huge blow.\u00c2\u00a0 And  there&#8217;s also the effect on the morale and productivity of the sizable  contingent inside Google who disagree with the policy.<\/p>\n<h1>It&#8217;s hard to be optimistic<\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a title=\"Poll by Kathy Gill on Google+\" href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/108740570618849247850\/posts\/NpUtwPZZWPW\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/farm7.static.flickr.com\/6089\/6162199778_5d39246709_z.jpg\" alt=\"Is it too late for redemption? 2 yes, 8 no, 8 too soon to tell\" width=\"640\" height=\"182\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s still possible for Google to reverse course if they want to: G+ is still in field test, so all they have to do is say something along the lines of &#8220;this was our biggest learning from the field test, and here&#8217;s what we&#8217;re going to do about it&#8221; and then take <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/107164208673760588451\/posts\/BSfP8dZM6PL\">Suw Charman&#8217;s advice <\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Reinstate everyone you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve suspended. Remove your current  name policy. Collaborate with the community on how best to moderate bad  actors. If you need some sort of identity policy, let us help you write  it. And, finally, apologise to everyone you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve bullied. There are lots  of them, so you might want to start now.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As I said two months ago in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=2918\">Why it matters<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If Google then builds on this by actively all these groups they haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t  been paying a lot of attention to so far, my money\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s on them to  dethrone Facebook and Twitter.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>At this point, though, it&#8217;s hard to be optimistic.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Bradley, Vic, Larry, Eric, et al. pretty clearly want to make Google+ a place for the Nicks, Davids, Eds, and Roberts of the world. \u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 So they&#8217;re basing their future social and search strategy on a product and environment that&#8217;s so hostile to pretty much everybody other than cis males with names that don&#8217;t look &#8220;weird&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>It sure seems suboptimal to me.<\/p>\n<p>jon<\/p>\n<p><strong>Revised<\/strong>, September 26. \u00c2\u00a0 Originally I had led with a section talking about how despite progress, there were also some warning signs: lack of adoption, Facebook&#8217;s response, and major functionality gaps.\u00c2\u00a0 Since then, Google&#8217;s finally integrated search, made some significant improvements in hangouts, and opened the doors:  <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/117388252776312694644\/posts\/EwpnUpTkJ5W\">Paul Allen estimates<\/a> that Google+ is up to 50,000,000 profiles already and seeing 2 million new signups each day, and Experian reported that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.readwriteweb.com\/archives\/google_plus_traffic_went_up_1269_last_week.php\">traffic shot up an astonishing 1269% last week<\/a>. Meanwhile Facebook&#8217;s much-anticipated response is confusing and annoying users.\u00c2\u00a0 So I chopped that section out and left the focus on the hostile environment.\u00c2\u00a0 Live and learn \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>* See A.V. Flox&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogher.com\/booberday-painting-it-pink-doesnt-make-it-less-sexist\">Painting It Pink Doesn&#8217;t Make It Less Sexist<\/a> for a great discussion of the impact of Booberday on the community<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ff00ff;\">Check out the previous posts in the series<\/span>: <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=2906\">A Work in Progress<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=2918\">Why it matters<\/a>,  <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/\/?p=2948\">#nymwars!<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=2976\">A tale of two searches<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=2990\">The double bind of oppression<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3023\">Anxious masculinity under threat<\/a><\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3033\">Still a Ways to Go<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=3083\">Booberday<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>also posted on G+ and on Diaspora* I feel very let down by Google&#8217;s behavior. I had hoped to escape the heavy-handedness that is Facebook, but that is not to be. I&#8217;ll have a presence here; I have to, professionally. But the joy is gone. &#8212; Kathy Gill, Google+ As An Identity Service Is Bait [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,13,16],"tags":[113,164],"class_list":["post-3137","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-professional","category-social-computing","category-tales-from-the-net","tag-diversity","tag-google"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3137","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3137"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3137\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3137"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3137"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3137"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}