{"id":30,"date":"2007-12-11T23:00:55","date_gmt":"2007-12-12T06:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.talesfromthe.net\/jon\/?p=30"},"modified":"2007-12-11T23:00:55","modified_gmt":"2007-12-12T06:00:55","slug":"bullies-and-moderation-in-online-discussions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/2024.thenexus.today\/index.php\/2007\/12\/11\/bullies-and-moderation-in-online-discussions\/","title":{"rendered":"Bullies and moderation in online discussions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A kerfuffle that recently went on in one of the online communities I hang out in is a nice illustration of some of the complex interaction between moderator privilege in discussion forums, power vectors and bullying.<\/p>\n<p>Briefly, a poster engaged in a bunch of techniques such as using loaded and admittedly-pejorative terms in a theoretically-neutral discussion, lashing out at critics while claiming victim status, ignoring constructive suggestions, and trotting out the hoary &#8220;I&#8217;m privileged&#8221; chestnut of disclaiming responsibility while attempting to put the burden of making up for his ignorance on others (&#8220;I&#8217;m looking for some specific suggestions here&#8221; aka &#8220;I don&#8217;t think my mistakes is important enough to feel like doing the work myself&#8221;). While I don&#8217;t see the guy as a bully in general, this is classic bullying behavior.<\/p>\n<p>What made this case particularly interesting is that the moderator took the bully&#8217;s side.    As moderator, he could edit the discussions after the fact to rewrite history &#8212; and he did. For example, he deleted a post as &#8220;an off-topic flame&#8221; (later reposting it on his private friends-only blog). He deleted a thread of mine and then posted his response (quoting my original words, but now in a way that marginalizes them) in a thread he had started. And so on.<\/p>\n<p>(The really funny thing is that my thread that he deleted specifically called him out for abusing his moderator privilege by deleting threads. I tell ya &#8230; you can&#8217;t make this stuff up.)<\/p>\n<p>Those who have spent a lot of time online will <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shirky.com\/writings\/group_enemy.html\">recognize the dynamic<\/a>. In this particular case the forum&#8217;s very new, and so it&#8217;s not a big deal: at some point soon, the moderator will either realize that if he wants people to work together he&#8217;ll have to stop bullying and start listening and learning &#8230; or everybody will get bored and drift away. Regardless of what happens here, the bully will either change his ways, leave the community, or become another &#8220;self-exile&#8221;, feeling excluded from the power structure and unable to understand why.<\/p>\n<p>Still, it gives a very interesting and unusually clean snapshot into the kinds of power vectors that moderation &#8212; or other control over the discourse &#8212; inherently introduces.<\/p>\n<p>Thoughts,  similar experiences, discussions of how this plays out in other discussion media (wiks, email lists), etc.?<\/p>\n<p>jon<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A kerfuffle that recently went on in one of the online communities I hang out in is a nice illustration of some of the complex interaction between moderator privilege in discussion forums, power vectors and bullying. 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